Origen & John 1:1

Origen connects "In the beginning" to the Christ. He is making s definite John 1:1 connection. Origen says, "Scripture is not speaking here of any temporal beginning, but it says that the heavens and the earth and all things that were made were made 'in the beginning,' that is, in the savior."

Origen, while I do not consider one of the most orthodox church fathers, thinks this reflects Christ being part of Creation. Most people I have talked to do not pick up on this. They connect the word of God, Christ, to the spoken word of God in Genesis 1:3ff.

I do not know about this temporal thought. I would say that this is the origin of species. "In the beginning" reflects point of starting creation. When you twist this you open a lot of other ideas. Now this is not something I would open this to the discussion.

Thus, I disagree personally with Origen's idea. I would support the connection with John 1:1 found in Genesis 2:3ff. This is my connection of talking about a 2nd creation account. Thank you.

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